Legislature(2019 - 2020)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

02/05/2019 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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01:33:32 PM Start
01:34:34 PM SB16
02:11:11 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
02:21:53 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 16 ALCOHOL LIC:FAIRS,THEATRES,CONCERTS;BONDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-Invited Testimony Followed by Public Testimony-
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees: TELECONFERENCED
Alaska Labor Relations Agency:
- Paula Harrison - Anchorage
- Bob Shefchik - Cancelled/Appointee Withdrew
Alaska State Board of Public Accountancy:
- Karen Smith - Anchorage
- Wes Tegeler - Wasilla
Board of Certified Direct-Entry Midwives:
- Dana Espindola - Cancelled/to be Rescheduled
- Cathy Mosher - Willow
-- Public Testimony on Appointees --
        SB 16-ALCOHOL LIC:FAIRS,THEATRES,CONCERTS;BONDS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REINBOLD  announced that the  first order of  business would                                                              
be  SENATE BILL  NO. 16,  "An Act  relating  to certain  alcoholic                                                              
beverage  licenses   and  permits;   and  relating  to   the  bond                                                              
requirement for certain alcoholic beverage license holders."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:36:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COSTELLO  made a clarifying  motion to bring  the original                                                              
version of the bill before the committee.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BISHOP objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:36:44 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR PETER  MICCICHE, Alaska  State Legislature, sponsor  of SB
16,  referred to  the  bill as  the "Save  the  Alaska State  Fair                                                              
Act." He  said his  priority is  to pass the  portion of  the bill                                                              
related to fairs  so the Alaska State Fair (ASF)  can operate this                                                              
fall.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE said  SB 16  is part  of his  ongoing effort  to                                                              
rewrite  Title 4,  related  to  alcoholic beverages;  however,  he                                                              
found  some  areas of  the  law  were more  pressing.  He  briefly                                                              
explained that Section  1 would add two new license  types related                                                              
to fairs and  performing arts centers and one  permit type related                                                              
to concerts.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  stated that members  may have recently  heard in                                                              
the  news  or  from constituents  that  the  Alcohol  &  Marijuana                                                              
Control  Office  {AMCO)  office  recommended  denying  the  ASF  a                                                              
recreational site  license because the office no  longer considers                                                              
that AFS  meets the  definition for this  license type  per recent                                                              
legislative  audits. Section  2 would  add a  new license  type to                                                              
remedy  the situation.  Secondly, SB  16 would  add a new  license                                                              
type for  performing arts theatres,  previously in  regulation. It                                                              
would increase  biennial fees  from $800 to  $1,250 and  allow the                                                              
sale  of alcohol  in multiple  and non-contiguous  locations  at a                                                              
specific performing  arts theatre site, including  in the audience                                                              
viewing areas.  It would  also extend the  hours allowed  to serve                                                              
alcoholic beverages  to two  hours before and  one hour  after the                                                              
event. Third,  the bill would  add a concert  permit to  allow the                                                              
recreational  site  licensees  to   sell  beer  and  wine  on  the                                                              
licensed  premises  during  a  period from  one  hour  before  the                                                              
concert until  the end of the  concert or similar  event. Finally,                                                              
SB 16 would add  a new fair license to the  population limitations                                                              
under  AS 04.11.400  and  provide an  exemption  from the  bonding                                                              
requirements  under AS  43 to reward  taxpayers  who file  and pay                                                              
their  taxes timely  for  three  consecutive years.  Although  the                                                              
fiscal note  from Department of  Commerce, Community  and Economic                                                              
Development  (DCCED)  is  for  $2,500,  he  is  currently  holding                                                              
discussions with  the department since notices can  now be printed                                                              
online.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:39:30 PM                                                                                                                    
EDRA  MORLEDGE,  Staff,  Senator   Peter  Micciche,  Alaska  State                                                              
Legislature,  on   behalf  of  the  sponsor,  reviewed   the  bill                                                              
sectional analysis  of the bill, which read as  follows, [original                                                              
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: Amends  AS 04.11.080   Types of  Licenses and                                                                   
     Permits    to  add  'performing arts  theater  license,'                                                                   
     'fair license,' and 'concert permit.'                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section   2:  Adds   a   new  section   (AS   04.11.205)                                                                   
     Performing  arts theater license.  This section  defines                                                                   
     this  type   of  license,  the  biennial  fee   for  the                                                                   
     license,   and  the  circumstances   for  issuance   and                                                                   
     compliance.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3:  Adds  a new  section  (AS  04.11.215)  Fair                                                                   
     license.  This section  defines  this  type of  license,                                                                   
     the   biennial   fee   for    the   license,   and   the                                                                   
     circumstances for issuance and compliance.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  4: Adds a  new section  (AS 04.11.235)  Concert                                                                   
     permit. This  section defines this type of  license, the                                                                   
     biennial  fee for  the  license, and  the  circumstances                                                                   
     for issuance and compliance.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5: Amends  AS 04.11.400(a)  to  specify that  a                                                                   
     new  license  may  not  be  issued  and  the  board  may                                                                   
     prohibit   relocation   of   an  existing   license   in                                                                   
     accordance with population limits.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:40:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6:  Establishes  under  AS  04.11.0400(o)  that                                                                   
     only one fair license may be issued per borough.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7: Adds  the new licenses/permit to  the list of                                                                   
     those required post notice on the designated premise.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  8: Adds language  section (i)  to AS  43.60.040                                                                   
     Administration and Enforcement of Tax                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section  9: Adds language  regarding  section (i) to  AS                                                                   
     43.60.040 Administration and Enforcement of Tax                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section  10: Adds  a  new section  (i)  to AS  43.60.040                                                                   
     Administration  and  Enforcement  of Tax.  This  section                                                                   
     states that  the department may not require  a bond from                                                                   
     an  entity that  has filed  timely  monthly tax  returns                                                                   
     and  paid necessary  taxes  over the  most recent  three                                                                   
     years,  if that  entity remains  in  compliance. In  the                                                                   
     case of  noncompliance, the  department must notify  the                                                                   
     entity within 30 days that they are required to file a                                                                     
     bond.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MORLEDGE  clarified  that   Section  10  rewards  timely                                                                   
filing and payment  of taxes for the most recent  three years                                                                   
and removes  the bonding  requirement if  the entity has  met                                                                   
that threshold.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:42:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE  said that  fairs are  important to Alaskans  for                                                              
cultural  and  recreational  aspects   and  for  the  agricultural                                                              
industry of the  state. He reported that alcoholic  beverage sales                                                              
at  the  ASF  make  the  other  activities  possible  because  the                                                              
proceeds help fund the remainder of the fair.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:42:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REINBOLD opened public testimony on SB 16.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:43:34 PM                                                                                                                    
BOB KLEIN,  Chair, Alcoholic Beverage  Control Board  (ABC Board),                                                              
said  he is  a licensee  and serves  as Treasurer  for the  Alaska                                                              
Center for  the Performing  Arts. He has  worked with  the sponsor                                                              
on  revisions to  AS  04,  including provisions  for  recreational                                                              
site  licenses. He  characterized  SB  16 as  "a  breath of  fresh                                                              
air."  He said the  bill would  clarify three  license types  that                                                              
were "shoehorned"  into a definition  geared more for  events such                                                              
as hockey  or baseball  games. He  said that SB  16 will  give the                                                              
board the  latitude and ability  to control future  activities for                                                              
fairs  and  concerts.  As the  sponsor  mentioned,  the  Anchorage                                                              
Performing Arts  Center's (PAC)  activities are currently  covered                                                              
by  regulation.  This bill  would  put  provisions in  statute  to                                                              
allow  performing arts  centers  to serve  alcoholic beverages  at                                                              
events, similar  to the  way most performing  arts centers  in the                                                              
U.S. serve alcoholic beverages at their theatres.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:45:41 PM                                                                                                                    
LARA MCGINNIS,  Member, Alaska State  Fair Board, stated  that she                                                              
previously served  as manager for  the Kenai Peninsula  Fair (KPF)                                                              
in Ninilchik. She  emphasized the importance of  providing the ASF                                                              
with  a  liquor  license,  not just  for  clarification,  but  for                                                              
control. She  related her experience  with the KPF,  which offered                                                              
alcoholic beverages  and then  tried to  operate the fair  without                                                              
alcoholic  beverages. When  the  fair tried  to go  "dry" it  only                                                              
encouraged  patrons to  sneak alcoholic  beverages  into the  fair                                                              
and fair  operators had no  control over alcoholic  beverages. She                                                              
offered  her belief  that it would  be horrendous  for the  Alaska                                                              
State Fair  to monitor this type  of issue due to its  large size.                                                              
She  said  fairs  should  be able  to  offer  alcoholic  beverages                                                              
legally  and responsibly,  served  by people  who  are trained  to                                                              
sell  it. Servers  who do  not sell  alcoholic beverages  properly                                                              
suffer  consequences. She  offered  her belief  that SB  16 as  an                                                              
important  bill and  the sooner  this issue can  be resolved,  the                                                              
better. She said  that under the current law the  ASF will need to                                                              
make up lost revenue that should be spent in other ways.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:47:34 PM                                                                                                                    
JIM  VARSOS said  he  is  also known  as  Hobo Jim  [a  folksinger                                                              
songwriter]. He  has performed  at the ASF  for over 37  years and                                                              
at the  Kenai Peninsula  Fair when  it was "dry"  and when  it was                                                              
"wet."  He said  he hopes  people realize  how critical  alcoholic                                                              
beverage sales  are to major events  at fairs because  they cannot                                                              
afford to  bring in big name  entertainment acts  without proceeds                                                              
from  alcoholic  beverages.  He   has  observed  a  high-level  of                                                              
professionalism  by alcoholic  beverage  servers. He  said he  was                                                              
not aware of  any fair or annual  event in the U.S.  that has been                                                              
denied a liquor license. He said he strongly supports SB 16.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:49:29 PM                                                                                                                    
JEROME  HENTEL, Manager,  Alaska  State Fair,  stated his  support                                                              
for SB 16, which  would add ASF as a recreational  site so it will                                                              
not  be  subject   to  misinterpretation  or   inconsistencies  in                                                              
enforcement.  The bill will  better define  the business  model of                                                              
the fair. The  ASF has been serving  Alaska for the last  80 years                                                              
through activities,  including, youth development,  4-H and Future                                                              
Farmers of  America activities.  The ASF  spends over  $200,000 in                                                              
educational  opportunities.  The ASF  is a  non-profit  fundraiser                                                              
for  Rotary  Clubs,  the  Lions   Club  [International],  and  the                                                              
[American]  Farmland   Trust.  For   example,  over   $22,000  was                                                              
generated  for 4-H  auction  last  year. He  said  the ASF  boosts                                                              
Alaska's economy by  over $23 million and creates  over 2,000 jobs                                                              
during the  12-day ASF. The ASF  generates over $100,000  in taxes                                                              
from beverage sales  alone and revenues from alcohol  sales offset                                                              
those costs.  This bill will  solve an  issue that arose  when the                                                              
Alcohol &  Marijuana Control  Office (AMCO)  interpreted  that the                                                              
ASF does  not meet the  recreational site license  qualifications.                                                              
He said  that for  the past 37  years it did  qualify and  the ASF                                                              
has responsibly  served alcohol during  that time. This  bill will                                                              
allow the fair  to continue to sell alcoholic  beverages. Although                                                              
revenue  from alcoholic  beverage  sales  does not  represent  the                                                              
main   fair  revenue   source,   it  does   provide  revenue   for                                                              
operational  and  planning  costs,  especially  in  off-years.  He                                                              
urged support  for SB 16. He said,  in part, SB 16 would  create a                                                              
new "fair license,"  so the ASF can serve up to  45,000 people per                                                              
day at the fair.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:53:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COSTELLO related  her  understanding  that ticket  prices                                                              
will be affected if this bill does not pass.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. HENTEL said  that historically ticket prices for  the ASF have                                                              
ranged  from   $10-$15,   depending  on   the  day  and   specific                                                              
promotion.  He said  he  was unsure  if  the  entrance fees  would                                                              
increase.  He  reported that  alcohol  sales  equate to  about  20                                                              
percent  of the  budget. He  related the  ASF Board's  goal is  to                                                              
keep prices  as low as  possible to allow  everyone to  attend. He                                                              
emphasized that  lost revenue from alcoholic beverage  sales would                                                              
have  a  devastating  effect  on   fair  revenues,  especially  if                                                              
numbers were down  due to inclement weather during  the fair or if                                                              
the  economy suffers  a  downturn. The  organization  hosts 70  or                                                              
more events besides  the fair that helps offset  expenditures, but                                                              
a  20  percent  loss  would  have   a  dramatic  effect  on  total                                                              
revenues.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:55:54 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REINBOLD  asked  him  if  he  has  any  questions  for  the                                                              
Legislative Budget  and Audit  Division or other  staff as  to the                                                              
genesis of this bill.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HENTEL said  he was  curious why  the ABC  Board singled  out                                                              
Alaska  State  Fair,  even  though he  applauded  the  agency  for                                                              
bringing the issue before the legislature.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:57:08 PM                                                                                                                    
ERIKA   MCCONNELL,  Director,   Anchorage   Office,  Alcohol   and                                                              
Marijuana   Control  Office   (AMCO),   Department  of   Commerce,                                                              
Community and Economic  Development (DCCED), referred  to the 2014                                                              
and 2017  legislative audits.  During the  audits, auditors  found                                                              
the ABC  Board was improperly  issuing recreational  site licenses                                                              
to establishments  that did  not meet  the statutory  requirements                                                              
for such  a license.  She reported  that many  sites did  not meet                                                              
the  requirements.  However,  the   state  fair  should  not  feel                                                              
singled out since  the auditors identified numerous  sites who did                                                              
not appear to meet  the requirements and referred them  to the ABC                                                              
Board  for action.    During her  tenure  she  has brought  issues                                                              
raised by  audits to  the board's attention  to address.  She said                                                              
the   ASF's  license   was  problematic   with   respect  to   the                                                              
recreational site  license statutes. She said she  has worked with                                                              
Senator  Micciche's office  on remedies.  She  emphasized that  it                                                              
was  not AMCO's  desire  to see  the Alaska  State  Fair lose  its                                                              
ability  to serve  alcoholic beverages,  but she  must ensure  the                                                              
statutes are accurately and appropriately implemented.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:58:51 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HENTEL pointed  out that the 2014 and 2017  Legislative Budget                                                              
and  Audit sunset  audits  for the  ABC  Board never  specifically                                                              
identified  the  ASF  as  one of  the  entities  not  meeting  the                                                              
requirements of the recreational site license.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:59:44 PM                                                                                                                    
KRIS  CURTIS,  Legislative Auditor,  Legislative  Audit  Division,                                                              
Legislative Agencies  and Offices, agreed.  She said the  2014 and                                                              
2017 audits referred  to the statute that specifies  what entities                                                              
qualify as  a recreational site.  She read [AS 04.11.210  (c)]," ?                                                              
baseball games, car  races, hockey games, dog sled  racing events,                                                              
or curling  matches ?." The legislative  auditors tested 10  of 29                                                              
active recreational  site  licenses and determined  that  all were                                                              
non-compliant. She  said that the non-compliant  entities included                                                              
travel  tour companies,  bowling alleys,  an art  council, a  pool                                                              
hall, a movie theatre,  and a spa. This bill does  not address any                                                              
of these  entities, she  said. The  ASF and  ski resorts  were not                                                              
part  of the  audit  sample, although  she  has subsequently  read                                                              
newspaper  articles  that  identified them  as  recreational  site                                                              
licenses in  non-compliance. She  remarked that  it is  unusual to                                                              
specifically   list    entities   in   statute   who    meet   the                                                              
qualifications for a license.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:01:17 PM                                                                                                                    
MATT  GILL,  Manager, Ginger  Restaurant,  said  that  he and  his                                                              
partner, Tony Bain,  are available to answer questions.  He stated                                                              
that their  restaurant is a caterer  for the Alaska PAC.  They are                                                              
interested in the theater license provisions of the bill.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:02:10 PM                                                                                                                    
JASON  ORTIZ, Secretary,  Alaska  State Fair,  said the  ASF is  a                                                              
non-profit  corporation.  This   past  year,  the  ASF  was  in  a                                                              
quandary  with  its  alcoholic beverage  licensing,  he  said.  He                                                              
stressed that  the ASF  has a $23  million positive  fiscal impact                                                              
on the  state and local  communities. He  offered his  belief that                                                              
the ASF  is the only fair  in the U.S.  that operates solely  as a                                                              
non-profit that does  not receive any state funding.  The fair has                                                              
dozens of year-round  staff working on events that  run throughout                                                              
the year.  He said that  the fair has  been a responsible  license                                                              
holder. He thanked the legislature for its support on SB 16.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:03:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SUZY  CROSBY, representing  herself,  said she  is  an events  and                                                              
entertainment  coordinator for the  ASF and  also a musician.  She                                                              
offered her  belief that the Alaska  State Fair Sluice  Box is the                                                              
best bar  in Alaska. The bar  is a traditional venue  where people                                                              
gather to listen  to fabulous music and the bar  provides revenue.                                                              
She has researched  other major U.S.  fairs and all of  them serve                                                              
alcoholic  beverages. She  expressed  concern that  the ASF  could                                                              
eventually  close  without  the revenue  from  alcoholic  beverage                                                              
sales, especially  if patrons decide  it is no longer  worth going                                                              
to the fair  for entertainment. She  urged members to pass  SB 16,                                                              
so that fairs are clearly defined as recreational sites.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:06:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CODIE COSTELLO,  Vice-President;  Director of Development,  Alaska                                                              
Center  for the Performing  Arts,  said she is  with other  Alaska                                                              
PAC  members,   Nancy  Harbour,  President  and   Chief  Executive                                                              
Officer,  and  Cindy  Hamilton,   Vice-President,  Operations,  to                                                              
speak in support of SB 16 and answer any questions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:08:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REINBOLD  stated that public  testimony would be  held open.                                                              
She asked members for comments.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:08:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE  remarked that Ms.  McConnell, AMCO, and  the ABC                                                              
Board  have worked  with  his  office on  SB  16.  He offered  his                                                              
belief  that the  bill  would clarify  the  statutes  in terms  of                                                              
alcoholic beverage sales at fairs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COSTELLO said  she  sees this  as  an important  economic                                                              
driver to  the state.  She said everyone  looks forward  to taking                                                              
their  families to  the ASF  in the  fall. She  asked whether  any                                                              
other entities should be added to the list in statute.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  responded that his  priority was to  address the                                                              
Alaska State  Fair, but  if other  entities have licensing  issues                                                              
to contact  his office.  He said  he understands some  discussions                                                              
are  being  held  related  to  ski  resorts  and  other  potential                                                              
licenses. He hoped they would expedite any requests.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:10:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GRAY-JACKSON offered  her  belief that  this  bill is  an                                                              
important  one.  She  thanked Senator  Micciche  for  bringing  it                                                              
forward.  She said  she was pleased  to see  that performing  arts                                                              
centers and concert permits were added to the bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:11:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REINBOLD held SB 16 in committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 16 Version A.PDF SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 16
SB 16 Sponsor Statement.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 16
SB 16 Sectional Summary.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 16
SB 16 Leg Audit Alaska State Fair 11.23.16.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 16
SB 16 DCCED AMCO Memo 12.17.18.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 16
SB 16 ADN Article 12.17.18.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 16
SB 16 Legislative Audit Sunset Review of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board - 2014.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 16
SB 16 Division of Legislative Audit Sunset Review of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board 2017.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
SB 16
L&C Public Accountancy Resume - Tegeler.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
L&C Direct Entry Midwives Resume - Mosher.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
L&C Labor Relations Agency Resume - Harrison.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
L&C Labor Relations Agency Resume - Shefchik.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM
L&C Public Accountancy Resume - Smith.pdf SL&C 2/5/2019 1:30:00 PM